Bible – Why I Left the Revival Fellowship

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Why would an all-knowing, all-seeing and all-loving God command full-scale genocide throughout the Old Testament? (Deuteronomy 7:1-2, Deuteronomy 20:16) or describe the pleasure of dashing children against rocks? (Psalms 137:9)

Why do the Old and New Testaments both advocate slavery? (Leviticus 25:44-46, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2)

Why does the Bible go into detail about how to obtain slaves, (Leviticus 25:44-46), how to beat slaves, (Exodus 21:20-21) when to have sex with female slaves and how to sell one’s daughters as sex slaves? (Exodus 21:7-11)

Why did Jesus endorse this? (Luke 12:47-48, Matthew 5:18-19)

If society has moved on since then – how is Jesus the same yesterday, today and for ever? (Hebrews 13:8)

If God took the time to write one book to last for millennia, why did He choose to fill a large portion of it with so much trivial, irrelevant and immoral material?

Why did the people responsible for editing the King James Version not believe what the Revival Fellowship teach about tongues? Why are they trusted with this complex task when they got salvation ‘wrong’?

Why is the Bible of 400 CE and the Bible today different by dozens of chapters and thousands of parts? Which Bible is the Word of God? And why does man edit it?

Why are there so many Bible translations with conflicting salvation messages?

What makes the King James Version any more divine? How can it be proven ‘more inspired’ than its competitors?

Why include a woman killing a man with a tent peg (Judges 4:21) or a man cutting up his concubine and mailing her body parts around? (Judges 19:29)

Why include Moses instructing his soldiers, “kill everyone but save the virgins for yourselves”? (Numbers 31:18)

Why is the scriptural value of Pi (π) incorrect? (1 Kings 7:23-26 & 2 Chronicles 4:2-5) Why didn’t God take this opportunity to demonstrate His all-knowing nature, when inspiring his authors?

Who has ascended to heaven? Enoch? (Genesis 5:24) Elijah? (II Kings 2:11) Jesus? (Mark 16:19) Why did Jesus say no man but himself has ever ascended to heaven? (John 3:13)

Why has no historian documented anything about three hours of darkness, dead people coming out of their graves, earthquakes or any other supernatural happening that are alleged to have happen after the Resurrection?

Why would the Bible teach being pleasant to ‘enemies’ if it would heap coals of fire on their head? (Romans 12:20, Proverbs 25:21-22)

How would Moses have witnessed and written of his own death? (Deuteronomy 34:5) Or, why would Moses have described himself as the most humble person on the face of the earth? (Numbers 12:3)

Why are the observations of the natural world in the Bible no different than man’s understanding at that time? (PDF)

Why does Job believe in fire-breathing dragons? (Job 41:1-34)

Why does the Bible describe angels coming to Earth to mate with humans to produce half-and-half, angel-human offspring? (Genesis 6:1-4)

Why did the Biblical authors think the Earth was a flat disc? (e.g. Matthew 4:8, Deuteronomy 13:7, Job 38:13, Proverbs 8:26-27, Isaiah 40:22, Daniel 4:10-11, Job 11:9). Why does the Bible use the Hebrew word for ‘circle’ and not ‘sphere’ or ‘ball’ which are used elsewhere?

Why did the Biblical authors think the Earth was set on unmovable pillars? (Isaiah 24:18, Psalms 93:1, 1 Samuel 2:8)

Why did the Biblical authors think the sky was a solid dome in which the sun, moon and the stars are embedded? (Genesis 1:6-7, Psalms 148:4, Genesis 1:14-17, Proverbs 8:28) Or that God is ‘enwraped’ in clouds and walks on the dome of heaven (Job 22:14) on sky that is as hard as ‘molten mirror’? (Job 37:18)

Why does the Bible say the Earth is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old? And that it was created in 7 days? And that man is made of dirt and woman from a piece of the man’s rib? Which passages of the Bible support it being allegorical?

How are symbolic passages of the Bible distinguished from factual?

Why wasn’t Jesus able determine the symbolic from the literal? Why did Jesus think there was a worldwide flood (Luke 17:27) or that Adam and Eve were real people? (Mark 10:6, Matthew 19:4)

Why didn’t God reveal his divine authorship by mentioning something like electricity or DNA or the actual age and size of the universe? Why did God pretend not to understand the world when inspiring His authors?

Why does the Bible contain superstitious ‘remedies’ for everyday ailments that have since been cured? (e.g. the ‘bodily discharge’ in Leviticus 15)

Why didn’t God transcribe a useful medical guide into the Bible for these primitive people rather than transcribing rituals that accomplish nothing?

Why didn’t God explain how to manufacture antiseptic solutions, sterile dressings, vaccines or antibiotic creams?

Why didn’t God design the human immune system to prevent all infections in the first place and eliminate the discharges completely?

Why would God intentionally inflict human beings with all of these different types of abnormal ‘discharges’?

Who was Joseph’s father? Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli? (Luke 3:23)

Why doesn’t John, Mark or Paul mention the virgin birth? Why did the early Jewish Christians deny the virgin birth?

What would we think of a teenage girl who claimed God impregnated her today?

What makes the claim any more reliable when it happened 2000 years ago in a far more superstitious society?

What is the correct recipe for the new moon sacrifice? 2 young bullocks, 1 ram and 7 lambs? (Numbers 28:11) Or, 1 young bullock, six lambs and 1 ram? (Ezekiel 46:6)

Why don’t we still perform new moon sacrifices today when Jesus endorsed the Old Testament in it’s entirety and specifically stated He was not coming to change the old law? (Matthew 5:18-19, John 14:15) Why don’t we stone our kids for answering back (Leviticus 20:9, Deuteronomy 21:18-21) or kill family members for joining different faiths? (Deuteronomy 13:6, 8-15)

Does God repent? Yes? (Genesis 6:6, I Samuel 15:11,35) or No? (Numbers 23:19)

Did the world develop many different languages after Babel? (Genesis 11:1,6-9) or prior to Babel? (Genesis 10:5) When God ‘confused the languages’ was He the author of confusion? (Genesis 11:9, 1 Corinthians 14:33)

If God created languages independently at Babel why do modern languages appear derivative of older languages?

How many horsemen did David take from Hadadezer? 700? (2 Samuel 8:4) or 7000? (1 Chronicles 18:4)

Is God a God of peace (Romans 15:33) or a ‘a man of war?’ (Exodus 15:3 – Is God a man?)

Does God want people to ‘beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more’ (Isaiah 2:4) or to prepare war, ‘beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong’? (Joel 3:9-10)

Why would Joshua command the Sun to stand still in the sky (Joshua 10:12-13) if the Sun does not move? Why did God pretend not to understand astronomy here (surely this would have been another good opportunity to demonstrate his all-knowing nature)?

Why did God and Abraham swear oaths to each other (Genesis 21:22-24, Genesis 21:31) if Jesus says, ‘swear not at all; neither by heaven . . . nor by the earth (Matthew 5:34-37) and Paul says ‘swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation’? (James 5:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign? 22? (2 Kings 8:26) or 42? (2 Chronicles 22:2)

What about Jehoiachin? Was he 18? (2 Kings 24:8) or 8? (2 Chronicles 36:9) Did he reign 3 months (2 Kings 24:8) or 3 months and 10 days? (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How many chiefs of the officers that bare the rule over the people were there? 550? (1 Kings 9:23) or 250? (2 Chronicles 8:10)

Did Saul’s daughter have any sons? Yes (2 Samuel 21:6) or No? (2 Samuel 6:23)

Was Lot Abraham’s nephew (Genesis 14:12) or brother? (Genesis 14:14)

Who sold Joseph into Egypt? Midianites (Genesis 37:36) or Ishmaelites? (Genesis 39:1)

How many baths did Solomon have? 2,000 (1 Kings 7:26) or 3,000? (2 Chronicles 4:5)

How many overseers were there on the Temple? 3,300 (1 Kings 5:16) or 3,600? (2 Chronicles 2:18)

Did Josiah die in Megiddo (2 Kings 23:29-30) or Jerusalem? (2 Chronicles 35:24)

When did Nebuzaradan come unto Jerusalem? On the 7th (2 Kings 25:8) or the 10th (Jeremiah 52:12) day of the fifth month?

How many animals went on the Ark? Two of every kind (Genesis 6:19-20) or seven of every clean animal and bird and two of every unclean animal? (Genesis 7:2-3)

How long was the flood? 40 days and nights? (Genesis 7:17, 8:6) or 150 days? (Genesis 7:24, Genesis 8:3)

Why does God forbid image-making in Exodus 20:4 and then command the making of two gold cherubs in Exodus 25:18?

Are sins and iniquities inherited for 4 generations? (Exodus 20:5) Or longer? (Deuteronomy 5:9). Or not at all? (Deuteronomy 24:16, II Chronicles 25:4, Ezekiel 18:19-20) Are we born into sin or not? (Rom 5:12, Romans 14:19, Romans 6:23)

Did David collect 200 Philistine foreskins for a wife? (1 Samuel 18:27) or did David pay 100 foreskins? (2 Samuel 3:14) Why doesn’t this currency reflect the wisdom of an all-loving God?

Did Saul consult the Lord? Yes (I Samuel 28:6) or no? (I Chronicles 10:13-14)

How did Saul die? Did he commit suicide by having his armor-bearer run him through? (I Samuel 31:4-6) or did the Amalekite kill him? (II Samuel 1:8-10) or did the the Philistines slay him? (II Samuel 21:12) or did he fall on his sword? (I Chronicles 10:4-5)

How did Baasha die in the 26th year of Asa’s reign? (I Kings 16:6-8) if he built a city in the 36th year of Asa’s reign? (II Chronicles 16:1)

How old was King Ahaziah when he began to reign? 22 (II Kings 8:26) or 42? (II Chronicles 22:2)

Will the Earth last forever? Yes (Psalms 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:4) or no? (Hebrews 1:10-11, II Peter 3:10)

Did the apostles receive the Holy Spirit on the first Easter Sunday (John 20:22) or at Pentecost fifty days later? (Acts 1:5-8, Acts 2:1-4)

Did Paul become speechless, see nothing and hear a voice (Acts 9:7) or did he see a light and hear nothing? (Acts 22:9)

How will an army of locusts be instructed not to harm any of the grass (Revelations 9:4) if all the grass in the world is consumed by fire? (Revelations 8:7)

Why does this ‘thou shalt not kill‘ commandment advocate an infinite cycle of killing: “He that killeth any man shall surely be put to death”? (Leviticus 24:17)

How are we saved from eternal torture? Through faith (Ephesians 2:8,9, Romans 3:20, Romans 3:28, Galatians 2:16) or works? (Matthew 19:16-21, James 2:24)

Is God is good? (Psalm 145:9) and without iniquity? (Deuteronomy 32:4) or does He create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)

Why does God give ‘statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live’? (Ezekiel 20:25,26)

How God did tempt Abraham (Genesis 22:1) if ‘God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man’? (James 1:13)

Why does Luke write that Jesus was born at the time when Caesar Augustus required everyone to take part in a census (at which time Quirinius was governor of Syria and Herod was king of Judea) if (a) No historian of the Roman Empire makes any mention of a universal census in the reign of Augustus? (b) King Herod died four years before the Common Era began? And (c) Quirinius was not the governor of Syria during the reign of Herod?

Why can Bible numerics be reproduced in any other work of literature? [further, reading]

Why has the Revival Fellowship started withdrawing Ivan Panin’s book from the bookstores? Why hasn’t this been publicly addressed?

Further reading:

Bible Contradictions
Bible Numerics in the RCI (PDF) 
Criticism of the Bible
Ethics in the Bible
Science and the Bible
Slavery in the Bible
The Bible and history
The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible

Creationists And The Scriptural Value Of Pi
What the Bible says about…

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